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Created page with "It seems fairly obvious that we are going to want custom namespaces for certain things. The obvious models that we are going to want to query as structured data are: * Songs / Tunes * Bands / Musicians * Shows * Records * Instruments (actual individual instruments, like Jake's Martin, Billy's Thompson(s), etc) ...I'm not totally certain which of these warrant their own namespace, but to me, the two that most obvious do are songs/tunes and instruments. Songs/tunes (wh..." |
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[[User:JMyles|JMyles]] ([[User talk:JMyles|talk]]) 18:31, 4 September 2025 (UTC) | [[User:JMyles|JMyles]] ([[User talk:JMyles|talk]]) 18:31, 4 September 2025 (UTC) | ||
:Backpedaling a little here after reading the docs, I think I might give a go toward doing all this with categories. If it's a wrong path, then we will indeed need to do some weird deletions and quasi-migrations, but to that end, let's only add Songs which are linked from other active pages (ie, not begin any process of large-scale adding records or Songs, but only adding them as needed by other organic content). [[User:JMyles|JMyles]] ([[User talk:JMyles|talk]]) 00:05, 5 September 2025 (UTC) | |||
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It seems fairly obvious that we are going to want custom namespaces for certain things.
The obvious models that we are going to want to query as structured data are:
- Songs / Tunes
- Bands / Musicians
- Shows
- Records
- Instruments (actual individual instruments, like Jake's Martin, Billy's Thompson(s), etc)
...I'm not totally certain which of these warrant their own namespace, but to me, the two that most obvious do are songs/tunes and instruments. Songs/tunes (which I think we can safely just call "Song:" without much controversy) because we so much of the other structured data arises from them (after all, they are the absolute core of our data model), and instruments because they are unambiguously discrete by nature (ie, say what you will about whether Rueben's Train is a Train 45 variant, nobody can dispute that Thompson serial #123xyz is in fact a single discrete object).
So I think it makes sense to start with songs, so that we're not left with the task of cleaning up articles in the main namespace later - I think songs are inevitably going to start being created very soon.
I'm looking at the following resources to make sure we create and populate this name space in a forward-looking way:
- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Using_custom_namespaces
- https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Custom_namespaces
- https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:$smwgNamespacesWithSemanticLinks
In particular, I think we're going to want to structure the data on the Song namespace to match the logic that we already use on arthel, which means matching the properties found in our existing song collection.
JMyles (talk) 18:31, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- Backpedaling a little here after reading the docs, I think I might give a go toward doing all this with categories. If it's a wrong path, then we will indeed need to do some weird deletions and quasi-migrations, but to that end, let's only add Songs which are linked from other active pages (ie, not begin any process of large-scale adding records or Songs, but only adding them as needed by other organic content). JMyles (talk) 00:05, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
